That is what they fear most! Therefore, humiliate them every chance you get. They expect it. Whether we do it or not, they will claim that we do and did. So why not grind them into the dirt where they claim we make them crawl?
Osama sez: " . . . the Muslim world had experienced more than eighty years of 'humiliation and disgrace' at American hands, during which its sons were killed and its sanctities defiled."
-A New Round of Anger and Humiliation: Islam after 9/11
According to Bernard Lewis, "He [Osama] was referring the suppression of the caliphate by the Turkish Republic in 1924. The caliphate was established on the death of the Prophet as the headship of the Muslim world. And as Muslims see it, the world of Islam was headed by a succession of caliphs of different dynasties, ruling in different places, Medina, Damascus, Baghdad and Cairo. The last one was in Istanbul, and it ended catastrophically after World War I, when the last of the caliphs was deposed, and the last of the great Muslim empires was partitioned, its territories divided between the victorious Western allies. That is what he meant by humiliation, and essentially there could be no doubt about that."
The hand-wringing, biased-towards-Moslems Human Rights Watch, claims "Religious Humiliation" of enemy combatant Moslems held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, by the United States.
Now, this "Human Rights Watch" is never concerned with "human rights" violations by Moslems, such as concerns prisoners held by them. So you know how much their concerns are worth (nil).
In an article in Jewish World review, Suzanne Fields writes:
" At first, the Muslim response to Western civilization was admiration and a desire to imitate Western success, an earnest attempt to gain equal status. But when Muslim countries were unable to keep up with the West, Muslims transformed failure into bitterness and hatred.
"It didn't start with American support of Israel, but the seeds were sown when five Arab states attacked Israel in 1948 and suffered a humiliating loss to the new state made up of little more than a half million Jews. Arabia tried again in the Six-Day War of 1967*, and again in the Yom Kippur War of 1973, all with the same effect. The fact that Israeli women fought valiantly against Arabs in 1948, and contributed to their defeat, intensified the blow to Muslim manhood.
"When Muslim men went away to fight to defend the Ottoman Empire during the second decade of the 20th century, Muslim women went to work outside the home out of necessity. But when Arab countries failed to sustain economic, technological and political achievement, the women were first to suffer the reaction. The pride of Muslim manhood demanded it."The Islamists easily encouraged dissatisfaction, exploiting belief in absolutes of good and evil to fight modernism and secularism. Women, perceived as "dirty," have experienced the brunt of male Muslim chauvinism in their own countries. Being guarded, punished and humiliated by American women in Abu Ghraib Prison challenges the very essence of what it means to be a Muslim man stuck on the lowest rung of the world power hierarchy. "
Malaysia’s Prime Minister addressed Islamic "humiliation" thusly:
"The divide between the Muslim and Judeo-Christian worlds will widen until the international community appreciates the sense of humiliation Muslims feel at many actions around the world, especially in the Middle East, Malaysia’s Prime Minister told the United Nations today.
Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, addressing the second day of the General Assembly’s annual debate, said this humiliation 'is the root cause for the loss of trust and confidence between the Muslim world on one side and the Judeo-Christian civilization on the other side.'”
Ralph Potts' Vagabonding has the following regarding Moslem humiliation:
From Husain Haqqani's "Why Muslims always blame the West", International Herald Tribune, October 16, 2004:
"...Instead of hard analysis, which thrives only in a free society, Muslims are generally brought up on propaganda, which is often state-sponsored. This propaganda usually focuses on Muslim humiliation at the hands of others instead of acknowledging the flaws of Muslim leaders and societies. The focus on external enemies causes Muslims to admire power rather than ideas. Warriors, and not scholars or inventors, are generally the heroes of common people. In this simplistic "us vs. them" worldview, both Musharraf and bin Laden are warriors against external enemies.
[italics mine, lw]
"...Ironically, a cult of the warrior has defined the Muslim worldview throughout the period of Muslim decline. Muslims have had few victories in the last two centuries, but their admiration for the proverbial sword and spear has only increased. ...The Muslim cult of the warrior explains also the relatively muted response in the Muslim world to atrocities committed by fellow Muslims.
"While the Muslim world's obsession with military power encourages violent attempts to 'restore' Muslim honor, the real reasons for Muslim humiliation and backwardness continue to multiply. ...Ironically, Western governments have consistently tried to deal with one manifestation of the cult of the warrior - terrorism - by building up Muslim strongmen who are just another manifestation of the same phenomenon."and in the same Ralph Potts' Vagabonding, we find
From Leon de Winter's �Arab-Islamic World Is a Hostage of Its Own Delusions�, Wall Street Journal Europe August 16, 2004:
" . . . .What matters is how phenomena are "experienced" and how they fit into the underlying plot that explains the world to the average Arab and Muslim: the Muslim is the victim of conspiracies."...Based on this simple idea everything falls into place. It explains why power is in other people's hands, when it should be the ummah that holds sway; it explains the poverty, inferiority, the way the West supposedly tries to tempt pious Muslims with obscenities such as film, television, music, dance and drink; it explains the appalling conditions in the Palestinian territories and the unemployment in Morocco, the lack of modern research and development in the universities; it explains the internal Arab divisions; it explains why a third of all Arabs have less than two dollars a day to spend; it explains why the superior Islamic world is-temporarily-the victim of the inferior West. Satan, devils and spirits are not just symbols. They are actual living phenomena in Islam. The notion of conspiracy is an essential aspect of modern Muslim religious philosophy and of Islamic world history."
Also in Ralph Potts' Vagabonding, a citation and quote:
"One of the things that I have discussed with friends who come from the Middle East or other Muslim countries is how far backwards they've slipped in the last 50 years. If you think about Beirut in the 1950s it was a fantastically open, cultured city. So was Damascus. So was Kabul. So was Tehran. These were all places which had come a long way. And now they seem to have slid back from that moment to something much less likable. And I've tried to say that these are questions which Muslim societies really need to ask themselves. It just won't do to endlessly blame the West. Because these are self-inflicted wounds."An excellent article analyzing Moslem humiliation, and the reaction of the Islamic world to it, is Humiliation of Muslims and the coming Siege of Vienna by Blake Gartner.
Here is a bit from that piece:
What Muslims claim to want is “respect”. But what is respect? The Islamic vision of “respect” is to be the dominant global power. It is to have the military power, the economic wealth and the international prestige to get what they want, whenever they want. Any compromise in any forum is immediately condemned as “humiliation” due to their weakness – a humiliation that naturally should be countered by pressing their political and military muscle.
Also see "Muslim's Lawsuit Alleges Humiliation"
And here is a good one, from the Moslem point of view, titled :
"Dignity vs Humiliation":
The Prophet (pbuh) said:
"Whoever allowed a Muslim to be humiliated while he could assist him, Allah will humiliate him in front of the entire creation on the Day of Judgment".
Let us chop off the head and hands of oppression and humiliation choking our brothers and sisters in Palestine, Iraq, etc., and our entire Ummah. Let us exchange our Cowardice for Honour and Dignity. Unless we change our own condition, Allah will not change the condition of our Ummah. You’ve seen anti-war protests, UN Resolutions and the like. They all failed. Jihad NEVER failed. Victory or Martyrdom!
" . . . the Arab and Muslim worlds are trapped in a culture of humiliation."
Shame and Pride
Hence, there is nothing that we--the West, the free (un-Islamic) people--can say or do that will not humiliate the Islamic umma, unless we surrender to it, subjugate ourselves to Islam.
As we will never do that willingly (without being conquered or killed by the Islamic hordes), they will always feel humiliated. Let them! Let them feel that they are worthless, that their ideology is inferior, that it is crude and brutal--for it is.
Whence the ultimate source of this Humiliation of the Islamic male? (The Islamic female is humiliated by the males of her society, so that she does not have far to look for the source of her humiliation.)
In The Plot Against America, Dexter Filkins writes:
"WRIGHT shows, correctly, that at the root of Islamic militancy — its anger, its antimodernity, its justifications for murder — lies a feeling of intense humiliation. Islam plays a role in this, with its straitjacketed and all-encompassing worldview. But whether the militant hails from a middle-class family or an impoverished one, is intensely religious or a “theological amateur,” as Wright calls bin Laden and his cohort, he springs almost invariably from an ossified society with an autocratic government that is unable to provide any reason to believe in the future. Islam offers dignity, even in — especially in — death. Living in the West, Atta and the others felt these things more acutely, not less. As Wright notes:
“'Their motivations varied, but they had in common a belief that Islam — pure and primitive, unmitigated by modernity and uncompromised by politics — would cure the wounds that socialism or Arab nationalism had failed to heal. They were angry but powerless in their own countries. They did not see themselves as terrorists but as revolutionaries who, like all such men throughout history, had been pushed into action by the simple human need for justice. Some had experienced brutal repression; some were simply drawn to bloody chaos. From the beginning of Al Qaeda, there were reformers and there were nihilists. The dynamic between them was irreconcilable and self-destructive, but events were moving so quickly that it was almost impossible to tell the philosophers from the sociopaths. They were glued together by the charismatic personality of Osama bin Laden, which contained both strands, idealism and nihilism, in a potent mix.'”Beyond the societal reason for a feeling of humiliation of the Moslem male, lies the personal one, the one that is the core source of a recognition of an actual inferiority.
The following is reprinted from PSYCHOPATHIA SEXUALIS ISLAMIYYA:
SHAME, THE ARAB PSYCHE, AND ISLAM
An excerpt from SHAME, THE ARAB PSYCHE, AND ISLAM, that most excellent piece, is this quote:
"The Arab world is suffering a crisis of humiliation. Their armies are routed not only by Americans, but also by tiny, Jewish Israel; and as Arthur Koestler once remarked, the Arab world has not, in the last 500 years or so, produced much besides rugs, dirty postcards, elaborations on the belly-dance esthetic (and, of course, some innovative terrorist practices). They have no science to speak of, no art, hardly any industry save oil, very little literature, and portentous music which consists largely of lugubrious songs celebrating the slaughter of Jews.
"Now that the Arabs have acquired national consciousness, and they compare their societies to other nations, these deficiencies become painfully evident, particularly to the upper-class Arab kids who attend foreign universities. There they learn about the accomplishments of Christians, Jews, (Freud, Einstein, for starters) and women. And yet, with the exception of Edward Said, there is scarcely a contemporary Arab name in the bunch. No wonder, then, that major recruitment to al-Qaeda's ranks takes place among Arab university students. And no wonder that suicide bombing becomes their tactic of choice: it is a last-ditch, desperate way of asserting at least one scrap of superiority—a spiritual superiority—over the materialistic, life-hugging, and ergo shameful West.
But this tactic is not, I suggest, a product of Islam. Rather, it is a product of the bruised Arab psyche. . . . "
* * *
"Arab women are elected for the special role of the inferior who, by definition, lacks honor. Arab men eradicate shame and bolster their shaky self-esteem by imposing the shameful qualities of the dhimmi, submission and passivity, upon women. Trailing a humbled woman behind them, Arab men can walk the walk of the true macho man.
"Hence the relative lack of material achievement by Arabs: the Arab world has stunted the female half of its brain pool, while the men acquire instant self-esteem not by real accomplishment, but by the mere fact of being men, rather than women. No wonder, then, that the Arab nations feel irrationally threatened by the very existence of Israel. Like America, the Jews have brought the reality of the liberated woman into the very heart of the Middle East, into dar al-Islam itself. Big Satan and Little Satan: the champions of Muslim women."
The foregoing is a quote by Dr. Sanity from Saving Arabs From Themselves by Dr. Leo Gutmann
Muslim men and their Masculinity
In his Yes This IS Islam Dr. Sanity tells us about a . . .
. . . 14 year old girl, abducted and raped by an adult male, who on her rescue and return to her family was brutally murdered by her father for "shaming" the family.
Why are Muslim Men . . .
. . . raging, dysfunctional . . . shaky about their masculinity . . . ?
Dr. Sanity says:
. . . over and over again we hear the refrain that the behavior of muslim men toward muslim women is "not" Islam. That it is contrary to "real" Islam (despite the manuals issued by imams on how to beat a wife or daughter so that it doesn't "show"). We even witness the apologists among the women who claim that covering themselves is their "choice" and allows them to be who they "really are".
Frankly, this bullshit is beginning to make me sick. I have no problem with such muslim women apologists wearing whatever they want. But their perspective would be ever so much more persuasive if women who choose NOT to have their individual identities submerged under a shapeless, formless and oppressive religion, were not murdered so frequently by raging, dysfunctional men, shaky about their masculinity."
--from This IS Islam
MORE ABOUT MUSLIM MEN'S HUMILIATION . . .:
" . . . child rearing and family structure of the Islamic families in Europe (and throughout much of the Muslim world) tend to foster the development of emotionally stunted and immature boys/men. Much was made of the high incidence of spousal abuse, pedophilia, and perverse sexuality. Among the most chilling of the insights was the recognition that the families of the rapists did not see their sons as having done anything wrong and felt that the women universally deserved their punishment for behaving immodestly.
The Symposium participants tied rape of infidel women and unveiled Muslim women to some core tenets of Islam as well as psycho-cultural correlates of the Muslim culture. Dr. Sanity has an excellent summary and offers some clarifying comments:
I continue to think that the treatment of women under Islam is not only the key to understanding the pathology of the culture, but also the key to developing an antidote to its most poisonous and toxic elements. Unveiling the women of Islam and eliminating their second-class status; empowering them in the oppressive Islamic countries where their individuality and self-expression has been crushed-- may cause a ripple effect that could eventually alter a family structure that encourages the development of generation after generation of dysfunctional and pathological men and women.
Rape is typically a crime of rage at the rapist's perceived humiliation by the more powerful and alluring woman. A significant percent of rapists are unable to complete the sexual act which adds to their feelings of weakness and attendant rage. While the Symposium participants make the point that rape conflates rageful aggression and sexuality, I think they miss an aspect of current conditions that are serving to worsen the predicament for the Islamic culture, and by extension for those Western societies with which the Muslims come into contact.The following section has to do with the psychodynamic development of boys and specific features of the Arab family and cultural practices that increase the male terror of the female body. . . .
Read it and more at
from Dhimmi Watch:
Islam's young men are often sexually insane. Arab moms have this folk idea that if they pull on their little boy's penises it will make it bigger and make them 'manlier' so basically, and I have seen this in both Egypt and Syria - Arab moms masturbate even INFANTS till they are writhing in dry orgasm.
It is done with barely concealed sadism and the battered islamic moms seem to 'worship' and yet in some primordial way hate their sons.
Older men routinely sexually abuse boys and girls and the whole culture is [pervaded] with intense shame/honor/guilt complexes. Sex is brutal, domineering and fraught with violence.
Posted by: poetcomic1 at April 22, 2007 12:16 PM at Dhimmi Watch
And there you have it! Humiliation has its roots in sexual shame and guilt. We did not impose that straight-jacket on the Moslems: Mohammed did. But do they blame him and his "all the sex I want for me, and none for you, except . . . " And the "excepts" require either sufficient wealth for marriage, taking captive women and children that can be used for sex, or sublimation, that is, perverting the sex drive into a killing drive--with the target, of course, infidels--that is, us, the free people, who are not subject to Islam.
So, if it's humiliation they feel, let them know why they feel it: their society is inferior to ours. They lack accomplishments, their young men hang around the streets wanting to kill (they can't have sex with their young women), they live under an ideology that was once good for enriching the sly Mohammed with women and wealth, by constant warfare and conquest of neighboring people. They are unfit to cope with the modern world where they cannot expect to live off the taxes paid by "non-believers." They feel humiliated because they are inferior human beings: morally, intellectually, sexually.
IT'S ALL ABOUT "HUMILIATION"Islamics feel that they must constantly humiliate those who are not moslems, whom they call the "kuffar."If we, whom they term the "kuffar," commit any act the Islamics take as a "humiliation," they dirty their diapers."Any act" includes defeating them in battle, not being respectful enough--to them or to their progenitor--the mad beast of makkah, or saying anything pejorative about their shitty ideology.
The following is from
It is a comment by the erudite najastani.[original has important links]najistani said...
CULTURAL JIHAD AND HUMILIATION OF THE KUFFAR Islam is the only religion which is more obsessed with unbelievers than it is with its own followers. Muslims define their own identity solely in opposition to the Kuffar. Islamic accomplishments are so negligible that they have no positive cultural features with which they can identify. Hence the unceasing and implacable aggression toward civilized peoples and envy of their accomplishments. The developmentand deliberate cultivation of hatred is such a central feature of Islam that there is nothing that weKuffars can do, or not do, that would make our univited guests hate us any less or any more. Rage is so intrinsic to Islam that external events are irrelevant.
Hatred of non-Moslems is the pivot of Islamic existence. Muslims are bound together by a shared and carefully nurtured animosity to 'The Other' developed from earliest childhood, which ignites a permanent fire of tension between Moslems and non-Moslems. Ever since Jihadists started immigrating into the West, we have become all too familiar with concepts such as 'Killing the unbelievers wherever you find them' and the tribal polarities of Dar al-Harb versus Dar al-Islam , Ummah versus Kuffar etc. This venom manifests not only as highly publicised murderous attacks - 9/11, 7/7, Beslan, Madrid, Bali etc but as less well publicised local instances of 'street-jihad' - small scale SJS murders, child abductions , rapes and general gangsterism. Muslims do not necessarily want to kill all unbelievers, since Muslim culture is predatory and parasitic andincapable of sustaining itself. Large numbers of non-Muslims have always been kept as 'dhimmis' - secondclass citizens who supported their indolent masters by their labour and payment of the crippling 'jizya' -the infidel poll tax. But if the kuffar is not killed, it is essential that he must be thoroughly humiliated. Humiliation is very important in Islam - second only to killing.
Humiliation of the kuffar takes a number of forms: 1) Dhimmitude - economicand social oppression bordering on slavery. (2) Sexual predation - historical whiteslavery and modern day pedophile rings and rape of 'uncoveredmeat'. (3) Cultural humiliation - muslim cultural triumphalism and destruction of the kuffars' culture. Most counter-jihadists are familiar with humiliationby dhimmitude and Islamic sexual predation, but cultural humiliation doesn't get as much publicity in the blogosphere, and yet it is a growing danger that deserves far more attention. At first sight the idea of muslim cultural triumphalism seems absurd. Dar al-Islam produces nothing of any cultural significance that Dar al-Harb wants . But the fact that they have nothing to offer doesn't stop them imposing their cultural presence with domineering and triumphalist structures. The main expression of cultural supremacism in Europe is the building of large, aggressive 'in-yer-face' mosques in prominent locations. For example, the London megamosque will be next to theOlympic site and will be many times bigger than any Christian building in London - an edifice of Stalinesque gigantomania . What Muslims lack in quality they attempt to make up for in size and numbers. Nevertheless, large piles of masonry still can't compensate for the inherent cultural barrenness of Islam, and the main effort in cultural humiliation is directed at destroying the kuffars' culture rather than creating anything new.
Constant attempts are made to restrict the public celebration of traditional kuffar festivals, such as Halloween, Christmas and Easter. Also, and most importantly, the religious artifacts of the Kuffar, especially 'idolatrous' images such as crosses, carvings, statues and stained glass windows, are regarded as Jahiliyya - worthless trash. Today, as all throughout its past, Muslims devalue the civilisations which they attempt to supplant through the defacing of ancient historical and religious sites. Any culture that is pre-Islamic is considered to be jahiliyya, that is, from " the time of ignorance. As the European Jihadist population increases in number and expands outwards from its ghettos, we can expect escalating attacks on the physical remnants of our culture, especially sacred sites such as churches.Eventually the architectural and artistic heritage of Europe will go the way of the Buddhas of Bamiyan. Islamic multiculturalism will not have produced 'vibrant cultural enrichment' but cultural desolation.
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