Friday, February 13, 2009

Moslems in America--Can A Moslem be an American? (let alone a good American?)

Can there be such a creature as an "American" Moslem? Or are the terms diametrically opposed and could never be reconciled unless there were to be an "Islamic Republic of America?"

"If one does not pledge his loyalty and allegiance to America can one ever be an American? Our U.S. Constitution clearly states you must, but more importantly the moral fiber of anyone who cares and loves their country dictates you must pledge allegiance to it."

--Dave Glaubitz at a Magazine interview by Jamie Glazov

Further from

Jihad is "inner struggle". That’s what so-called "moderate Muslims" are telling unsuspecting infidels. Here, on this educational site, we have learned a fair bit more. We know that all major schools of Islam teach jihad to make the world Islamic, by any means. But its not only by terror and by open warfare, not only by demographics that Muslims intend to rule the world, but Muslims also wage jihad by the pen, and by speaking. That’s why you have great numbers of taqiyya spin-doctors who post on websites, who are invited to speak in universities and on TV-shows, and every time we are told that we have it all wrong, that all terror-attacks are done by misunderstanders of Islam, and if we were not ignorant we would understand that Islam is, in fact, somehow peaceful. If you have taken pains to educate yourself about this horrid belief-system and you manage to see through the fog, you are also aware of the money-jihad, (Islamic Finance) and the infiltration in Western governments, where agents of Islam are hard at work to prepare the ground for the jihad by stealth.
--The Jihadist Method of the Pen and Tongue

from the David Glaubatz interview at Magazine:

The gravest danger to America is the use of the ‘pen’ and ‘tongue’ by Jihadists and their supporters. Jihad is currently being waged in America as we idly stand by and pat ourselves on the back for not having another physical attack. In actuality we are under attack and the destruction is many times worse than Sept. 11th, 2001.

Gaubatz: There are very subtle and deceiving forms of the use of the pen and tongue. The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), and the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), are prime examples of using the Jihadist method of the pen and tongue. Both utilize the television, internet, and develop source networks with important political and law enforcement officials. They understand in our current point of history America is very vulnerable. If another terrorist attack were to take place in America similar to 911, it would set these organizations back 20 years. They understand there is a time for terrorist attacks and then there is a time to use the pen and tongue form of attacks against their enemies.

[The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), and the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)] [b]oth . . . distribute brochures to our public school administrators "designed to assist teachers, principals and other educators in formulating and implementing policies and programs that will help create a culturally-sensitive academic environment" (CAIR: An Educators Guide to Islamic Religious Practices). A cursory reading of the brochures appear to be innocent enough, but if one reads the booklets word for word, attend CAIR and ISNA meetings, review the hundreds of other books and brochures they produce and/or give support to, the hidden messages are revealed. The message by CAIR and ISNA is to not pledge allegiance or loyalty to America.

* War and Peace — and Deceit — in Islam (Part 1)

I can give thousands of examples (every troop who gave his/her life in times of war for America) of what an American is and I believe most would agree an American should show allegiance to our country. Do CAIR, ISNA, or most Islamic scholars operating in the U.S. advocate pledging allegiance to America?

* War and Peace — and Deceit — in Islam (Part 2)

From the ISNA educators brochure: "On behalf of ISNA, the largest national organization of Muslims in the United States and Canada, and in view of the above teachings of Islam, I would like to request that Muslim students in your school system not be required to pay allegiance to the flag" (ISNA brochure "You’ve Got a Muslim Child in your School). This message is hidden in the fine print of the six page brochure.

* Deception in Islam

CAIR has a similar statement to school administrators: "Pledge of Allegiance: Islam discourages acts of reverence to anyone or anything but God. Some Muslims may be hesitant to recite the pledge of allegiance. Many Muslim parents teach their children to stand up but not recite the pledge".

The hidden message ISNA, CAIR, and a host of other Islamic organizations and scholars is that these supporters of Jihad against America do not want Muslims to pledge allegiance to our country. America is a non Islamic State, is not built around Islamic values, and is not (perhaps not) led by an Islamic and Sharia compliant scholar.
F[]: So is it fair to say that most Muslims in America support Islamic Jihadists more than they do the U.S.?

Gaubatz: I am saying based on my visits to hundreds of Islamic Centers both here in the U.S., and several countries, my discussions with hundreds of Islamic leaders and worshippers, and my research of hundreds of hours of lectures by Islamic scholars currently in America, it is an accurate statement per the Muslims words themselves.
If CAIR and ISNA do not advocate violence against America and non Muslims I would ask they organize a rally to remove the thousands of books, tapes, DVDs, and manuals written by Islamic terrorists from the thousands of Islamic Centers across America.

Dave Gaubatz further says:

On several occasions I have visited the Islamic Center of DC, 2551 Massachusetts Ave, Washington, DC. This center is located on Embassy Row and is used as a public relations tool for U.S. Presidents and other U.S. policy making officials. It is sad to say but the leaders of this center are laughing behind the backs of our leaders each time they visit. While at this center I have been provided materials written by Islamic terrorists, and the materials call for killing non- Muslims and advocate turning America into an Islamic State. I strongly encourage our leaders to educate themselves on counter-terrorism issues and to know even who the terrorist supporters are in our country. Why would CAIR, ISNA, and the Islamic Center of DC use as examples of understanding Islam a book written by a convicted terrorist Ali AlTimimi (currently residing in a U.S. prison serving life plus 80 years). The answer is because AlTimimi and others with like minded ideologies are respected by the leaders of Islam in the U.S.
If one does not pledge his loyalty and allegiance to America can one ever be an American? Our U.S. Constitution clearly states you must, but more importantly the moral fiber of anyone who cares and loves their country dictates you must pledge allegiance to it.

--Dave Glaubatz, the first U.S. civilian (1811) Federal Agent deployed to Iraq in 2003, currently the Director of the Mapping Sharia Project and the Owner of DG Counter-terrorism Publishing (
from "The Jihadist Method of the Pen and Tongue"
By Jamie Thursday, February 12, 2009
obtained from

[color and bold emphasis mine. lw]


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